Bas Rutten and Dennis Hallman debate steroids on Inside MMA

Bas Rutten and Dennis Hallman debate steroids on Inside MMA

Bas Rutten and Dennis Hallman debate steroids on Inside MMA

Jason Nawara

Jul 09 |10:32

Last Updated on Sat, 09 Jul 2011 13:43

The problem with the whole steroid debate is that the soon coming singularity will make all of these PED arguments moot. It's already kind of begun: isn't Lasik eye surgery for a Major League pitcher a performance enhancer? Soon nanomachines will be floating through our bloodstreams and repairing ACL tears within minutes of the injuries taking place. Athletes will miss no time. All professional sports records will be decimated and the average MMA record for a pro fighter will look like Ebersole's after only two years of activity.

But we can continue to worry about steroids for now, even if every single one of us are 75% robot by 2014. Bas Rutten and Dennis Hallman went at it on the everlasting steroid debate on the latest episode of Inside MMA, here it is.

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+4 # Guest 2011-07-09 11:09

I never post, but props for the singularity reference.

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0 # Guest 2011-07-09 12:38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTVM24WBmXE

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+10 # Guest 2011-07-09 11:13

Bas is the fucking man. MMA is in a unique position to really swing the hammer on this issue and I hope they do. Yeah, It is idealistic but I can dream.

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-25 # Sambro 2011-07-09 15:39

Bas was a juicer.

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+3 # Guest 2011-07-10 06:36

Any proof or just some good ol' trolling?

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-3 # Sambro 2011-07-10 18:23

He fought in Japan for years. All those guys were juicing.

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+2 # Guest 2011-07-11 00:18

That is a really stupid comment. Bas is not a republican harping on how gay marriage will ruin society (i.e., a closet self hating gay man), he is an MMA fighter who HATES performance enhancing drugs and was really the first to vocally campaign against it, he has called juicers losers for years before the sport was even mainstream.

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-4 # Guest 2011-07-10 12:36

Quoting Barge:

Bas is the fucking man. MMA is in a unique position to really swing the hammer on this issue and I hope they do. Yeah, It is idealistic but I can dream.

I love Bas Rutten, however, I find it slightly hypocritical that Bas is being so negative and critical of individuals who use performance enhancers when he is a huge supporter of Alistair Overeem and publicly endorses the Reem.

By no means am I calling Overeem out as a cheater or anything, as I am a big fan of him myself.

I just find it dumb how Bas can say that when the Reem has very likely used PED's in the past.

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0 # boom roasted 2011-07-10 15:59

By no means am I calling Overeem out as a cheater or anything...

I just find it dumb how Bas can say that when the Reem has very likely used PED's in the past...

Actually, that's exactly what you're doing.

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+9 # Guest 2011-07-09 11:25

I see the point Hallman is trying to make but if the good Lord didn't make your body physically capableenough to compete at a certain sport without using a supplement that gentically enhances your body...then maybe you should find another job.Call me old fashioned but I don't think these guys should be taking much more than your basic protein and vitamins.If I was born with 1 leg should I be able to have some cryogenic cyborg leg built onto me and LHK every dude I square off with since I was born at a disadvantage from everyone else? Hell no.Life's a bitch.Get over it

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-1 # Guest 2011-07-09 12:22

Quoting ElDandy:

I see the point Hallman is trying to make but if the good Lord didn't make your body physically capableenough to compete at a certain sport without using a supplement that gentically enhances your body...then maybe you should find another job.Call me old fashioned but I don't think these guys should be taking much more than your basic protein and vitamins.If I was born with 1 leg should I be able to have some cryogenic cyborg leg built onto me and LHK every dude I square off with since I was born at a disadvantage from everyone else? Hell no.Life's a bitch.Get over it

Pretty much what I think...if there's no way to make this fair for everyone, then the treatment should be banned from the sport. But then the disability discrimination stories would rain to the UFC

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+2 # powers 2011-07-10 01:32

its not a genetic enhancement, it is hormonal supplement.

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+1 # Guest 2011-07-09 12:30

LOL....I was waiting for Bas to smack Dennis Hallman in his face.

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-1 # chiggs 2011-07-09 12:31

Only fighters that are gonna be defending PED's or TRT, are the ones using and abusing the damn things. Its such a shitty position for MMA to be in with them. Its like a witchhunt by any media that wants to portray MMA in a bad light, using the parallel of Pro wrestling and its problems with them, as well as head injuries, which is a whole nother can of worms.
The Only time PED's should be legal and used, is when theyre legit hurt and need to rebound and heal faster then usual, in which case PED's or TRT is amazing for. To use the available loophole for scripts of them to boost your performance is not cool. MMA is so close to making it as a Mainstream sport, but yet so far away with the problems Plaguing it. Ped's/TRT's, Painkiller addictions, Head trauma/concussi ons, Bad judging/officia ting, bad reffing and the scoring methods, ect. All need to be dealt with swiftly or MMA is never gonna have the parallels to Pro wrestling, and the bad stigma's it and boxing get, taken away and it looked upon, as a truly safe, mainstream sport.../end rant

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-9 # Guest 2011-07-09 12:40

Quoting chiggs:

Only fighters that are gonna be defending PED's or TRT, are the ones using and abusing the damn things. Its such a shitty position for MMA to be in with them. Its like a witchhunt by any media that wants to portray MMA in a bad light, using the parallel of Pro wrestling and its problems with them, as well as head injuries, which is a whole nother can of worms.
The Only time PED's should be legal and used, is when theyre legit hurt and need to rebound and heal faster then usual, in which case PED's or TRT is amazing for. To use the available loophole for scripts of them to boost your performance is not cool. MMA is so close to making it as a Mainstream sport, but yet so far away with the problems Plaguing it. Ped's/TRT's, Painkiller addictions, Head trauma/concussions, Bad judging/officiating, bad reffing and the scoring methods, ect. All need to be dealt with swiftly or MMA is never gonna have the parallels to Pro wrestling, and the bad stigma's it and boxing get, taken away and it looked upon, as a truly safe, mainstream sport.../end rant

Cool story, bro.

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+6 # boom roasted 2011-07-09 14:09

Cool response, bro.

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+4 # Guest 2011-07-09 15:00

If you have nothing to say just copy someones comment and add a lame ass oneliner beneath it...

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+4 # Sambro 2011-07-09 18:25

Quoting Mr. Miyagi:

If you have nothing to say just copy someones comment and add a lame ass oneliner beneath it...

Wax on Wax off.

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+13 # Tobikan Judan 2011-07-09 12:38

It's quite simple:

If you get popped for the juice and have no reason as to why you were on it, expect to get canned.

If you're on TRT...cool, just make sure that you're very transparent with it and that when you test, you test at normal levels.

If you get popped on some "GAMMA" level shit and claim you were on TRT, go eat a weenie.

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+1 # Guest 2011-07-09 12:51

dennis sounds like a pretty smart dude

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+1 # boom roasted 2011-07-09 14:09

I didn't hear a word he said.

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+8 # Tobikan Judan 2011-07-09 14:53

i'd expect him to know a lil' something about the disease he has.

sounding smart and being smart are two different things. he came at Bas with a weak argument, basically calling him uneducated.

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+6 # Guest 2011-07-09 13:30

Bas talking motherfucking Sense. Not sense with a lower case 's' I'm talking straight up Sense.

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-2 # Tha Premiere 2011-07-09 16:27

I say legalize it. Fuck it.

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-2 # greatjake 2011-07-09 17:04

im i the only one who hates kenny rice

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+3 # Dill 2011-07-09 17:40

yes, you are.

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-1 # Guest 2011-07-09 18:14

yes,you sre absolutely the only one who hates Kenny.Him and Bas are awesome together.They were hard to watch in the first year but now they got it down.I wish they would commentate fights together.Woulld blow Rogaine and Goldberg out the water

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-2 # Guest 2011-07-10 08:11

what are the chances that in a matter of 1 year 3+ top MMA fighters need a therapy designed for 60 year olds? they all claim low testosterone levels but I have yet to see an APPROVED treatment and fact is, they were (2 of them) suspended. It effing stinks.

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+2 # horseface 2011-07-09 20:22

Bas is a wise man. dennis needs to shut the hell up, if you are taking some kind of HRT or steroid becuase of an illness or injury then technically its not a performance enhancing drug. if you are normal and are taking steroids to enhance your performance, to make your self stronger and faster without having to do the rigourous training a natural athelete has gone through to get to the same level then what you are doing is illegal and bascially you are cheating yourself, the fans and your opponent.

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0 # king_tico 2011-07-10 06:12

I agree with Bas & Dennis.

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-2 # Guest 2011-07-10 08:10

This needs to be HEAVILY regulated I mean, what are the chances that in a matter of 1 year 3+ top MMA fighters need a therapy designed for 60 year olds? they all claim low testosterone levels but I have yet to see an APPROVED treatment and fact is, they were (2 of them) suspended. It effing stinks.

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-2 # Guest 2011-07-10 14:15

Dennis Hallman is such an impossibly ginormous cunt. I hope his disease kills him.

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