Two days ago, Rickson Gracie appeared on Joe Rogan Experience #524. After the show, an excited Eddie Bravo finally had his chance to explain the history of the Rubber Guard to the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu super guru.
In the video below, Rickson listens intently to a fevered Eddie Bravo for several minutes. Bravo talks. Rickson occasionally responds.
“Yes. Yeah. Yes,” he said.
In a world where members of the Gracie clan have sometimes resented the Tenth Planet figurehead, the dialogue was refreshing.
“OK,” Rickson continued.
Joe Rogan left the room around the seven minute-mark. Perhaps to enjoy a few seconds of silence in his sensory deprivation tank.
But seriously, the meeting was not only fantastic to watch, it really was an important moment in the history of the sport.
Eddie got to not only demonstrate his setups on Joe, he got to work them on Rickson himself. Rickson Gracie isn’t just the ultimate Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, he’s also been an incredible innovator. I learned a new variation of a one-step Rickson armbar just a year or so ago, that he was said to have invented while surfing. So I imagine he views Eddie as a kindred spirit of sorts. And he doesn’t appear to view Eddie as any kind of threat at all. Why would he? He’s Rickson Gracie.
When Rickson does get around to talking, he has some excellent feedback for the animated inventor.
“If the guy tried to be defensive, it’s hard for you. I believe you have to combine some kind of strike, some kind of punishment. With your feet, with your elbows maybe, to create that kind of panic.”
And so, Eddie demonstrated a position he calls “Muddy Waters,” an immobilizing high guard designed to expose the head to elbow strikes, or to transition to an armbar.
“That’s interesting,” said Rickson.
“That’s stuff I would love to show Kron,” Eddie answered.
Rickson listened to Bravo’s invitation to help his son, to perhaps add one more trick to his arsenal of home-grown Jiu-Jitsu.
“Any weapon is good when we go to battle,” Rickson he said.
“Let’s make this again.”