For those international readers of MiddleEasy.com (or people who have never heard a single mid-90s hip-hop track), putting a person 'on blast' is essentially providing a piece of information that is used to refute the argument or belief of another person. For example, if Arnold Schwarzenegger denied having an affair with his house keeper, Maria Shriver could just show a picture of Arnold's 'love child' and say something along the lines of 'Well how the [expletive] does this little kid look like Conan the Barbarian?' That would be the absolute definition of putting someone on blast. Just a few minutes ago, Marloes Coenen utilized a similar 'blast' technique by publishing her entire check from Forza, LLC, the company that now owns Strikeforce which, of course, is all owned by ZUFFA. Now the significance of the check lies in the fact that it's made out to 'Marloes Coenen' and not any other entity. You're still scratching your head trying to figure this out? Don't worry, we have an explanation -- but you should probably shampoo more often. The reason why this is significant is due to a recent interview on MMAFighting in which Dana White says the reason for the cut of Marloes Coenen (and most of Golden Glory) was due to business practices. Specifically, the need to pay Golden Glory instead of the fighters. Here's an excerpt from today's Mike Chiappetta interview with Dana White.

"This is actually a pretty simple explanation," he said. "If you look back throughout history, we haven't had any Golden Glory guys fight with us since Semmy Schilt, right? And the reason is we have very different business practices. It's tough to do business with them. The bottom line is the way they do business is, you have to pay them, not the fighters. We don't work that way. It's not the way we do business. It's not how it works in the United States with the athletic commissions. You don't pay the managers and the managers pay the fighters. You pay the fighters and the fighters pay the managers."

As you can see in this check, it's made directly to Marloes Coenen. See for yourself.

Could there be more to this story aside from this scanned copy of the check? Of course there is -- we just don't know it yet. However, in the meantime I'm getting some Mexican food. Hey, I'm hungry...I can't help it. Get off my back.

Update: I've been thinking about this, and to play devil's advocate, Golden Glory may have requested their fighters to be paid through the organization, ZUFFA denied it and dropped the fighters because of it. However, judging from the way Marloes Coenen is presenting the information, the impression I initially got was the check was used to dispute the statement made by Dana White.

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+25 # analXstaphXinfection 2011-08-04 18:29

I knew it. Fuck Dana

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+3 # Sambro 2011-08-04 20:41

Here's the liar begin interviewed by Ariel. Notice how much he blinks his eyes when he talks about the GG axing:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/08/04/dana-white-talks-ufc-133-golden-glory-and-fedor-emelianenkos-f/

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+17 # jawesome 2011-08-04 21:54

Dana always blinks a lot. He must be lying all the time.

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+6 # Guest 2011-08-04 22:05

Via Twitter: Dana White "because we would NOT pay GG. I said that in my interviews."
1 hour ago
EVEN after Marloes Coenen tweeted to her followers and Dana the check in her name.

What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

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+8 # Guest 2011-08-04 22:23

Yeah Marloes thought she was putting Dana on blast but she reinforced what Dana said to the media today.

Dana said: "We made Golden Glory agree to our process. They did until they showed to the show and threw a fit. But we still did it our way."

Marloes tweeted a pic of her check that she got directly from Zuffa/Forza.

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-2 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:09

Dude really. Are you a pychology major?

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+3 # Edward 2011-08-05 13:58

Quoting SST:

Here's the liar begin interviewed by Ariel. Notice how much he blinks his eyes when he talks about the GG axing:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/08/04/dana-white-talks-ufc-133-golden-glory-and-fedor-emelianenkos-f/

Aww shit someone's been watching the mentalist.

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+4 # Guest 2011-08-05 09:27

You people don't listen. All of the Golden Glory fight that have fought do Zuffa have been paid directly. But Golden Glory would like it to be the other way around. That why Dana is saying it's difficult to work with them because the way they "want" to do it is not in the confines of the law. Twitter: YOUNG_H

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-2 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:13

EVERYONE DOWNING DANA ON THIS POST, DONT PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND ARE FUCKING RETARDS.

FUCK YOU HATERS.

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+42 # Guest 2011-08-04 18:35

UFC fans always praise Dana for his honesty but everytime I see him speak, something feels off. Something is really wrong about Dana. I think he's a delusional person who got everyone to drink his Kool-Aid.

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+9 # chiggs 2011-08-04 21:42

Quoting Smashida1:

UFC fans always praise Dana for his honesty but everytime I see him speak, something feels off. Something is really wrong about Dana. I think he's a delusional person who got everyone to drink his Kool-Aid.

Fucking right he has!!! Ive never been a fan or advocate of his, as most probably know, I think he's the biggest douchebag as far as promoters go.
In fact, for all you Dana nut huggers, the guy is such a piece of shit, he's become so deluded that he called his mother when he was pissed with her and pulled the "Do you know who the Fuck I am???" bullshit with her, his own fucking mother!! No Dana, course not, why the fuck would your Mama know who you are...Hell her whole Book is on how he's become a massive Prick.
Yes in some cases, he's helped MMA grow, but in even more cases he fuck's things up and somehow ends up making it look bad, all the while, Not giving a single fuck, as long as he's happy...
PIECE O' SHIT.

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-3 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:11

Yeah cause we should all trust your instinct. DOUCHE

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+11 # Guest 2011-08-04 18:37

SHOTS FIRED

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+3 # gardeninja 2011-08-04 18:41

God I feel dirty sticking up for Dana but he said that he wont pay Managment and will only pay the fighter. Does this check not prove that. Also she told Josh Gross she WANTS Golden Glory to handle payments because of tax purposes. She's paid direct and knows what she makes. Obvously there is a lot more to this but this check really goes more to proving Dana's point than vice versa.

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-8 # killakev 2011-08-04 18:48

You're an idiot.

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+12 # Guest 2011-08-04 18:51

Quoting killakev:

You're an idiot.

He's an idiot for paying attention?

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-6 # Guest 2011-08-04 22:09

Marloes Coenen tweeted a few hours ago this check to dana White and said that he was lying about her management.

so, no, Gardeninja is not paying attention.

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+6 # Guest 2011-08-05 00:18

Quoting WTFMan:

Marloes Coenen tweeted a few hours ago this check to dana White and said that he was lying about her management.

so, no, Gardeninja is not paying attention.

What you said definitely made sense.

It's clear to me that most everybody arguing against Dana White hasn't read a transcript of the interview or watched the interview itself.

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 19:55

Of coarse the check is going to be written out to connen, thats why she was able to fight because golden glory agreed to the terms. the athletic commision wouldnt allow her to fight if the check was wriiten out to the managment. so they agreed to the terms but nag about it . and stop hating on dana hes probably one of the most down to earth promoters.

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+6 # Guest 2011-08-04 18:48

Good to see somebody has good reading comprehension.

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-20 # Guest 2011-08-04 18:55

You my friend, are a complete fool. Your mother should have aborted you, what a waste. It proves nothing of the kind, it actually prove the direct opposite. It proves Dana is a liar, I'd explain it all again for you but its painfully obvious you are retarded.

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-4 # Guest 2011-08-04 18:56

Dude, you were the kid sleeping at the desk next to me in English class. The check proves that the funds ARE going directly to the fighter! Which makes Dana look like an idiot because it isn't going to the manager. But anyone who know's how fighter purses work knows that the purse always goes to the fighter. The fighter is responsible for any secondary distribution of funds. So, Dana White has no point. There's A LOT MORE to this story, but that news must remain silenced for now...

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+1 # horseface 2011-08-04 19:36

it doesnt prove dana's point, it makes him look like an ass. I havent heard the rest of the interview but it sounds like one of the reasons why Zuffa have decided to no longer employ any golden glory fighters is because they are hard to do business with because they dont do things the way Zuffa does (asking for golden glory to be paid, not the fighters) but Marloes check shows that zuffa is indeed paying the fighters so how could they be difficult to do business with??

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0 # Sambro 2011-08-04 20:50

So when did you decide that dropping out of middle school was a good idea?

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-4 # Guest 2011-08-04 22:08

dana's point? his point was that UFC would NOT pay Golden Glory directly. THE CHECK IS MADE OUT TO MARLOES COENEN, NOT GOLDEN GLORY.

What the fuck, How does that prove Dana's point?

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-11 # WiseUp 2011-08-04 19:05

"Golden Glory" is Dutch for "Sour Grapes".

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+10 # gardeninja 2011-08-04 19:10

I made an observation and I may or may not be correct. I've been wrong more than a few times and am wrong at least 5 times a day. Name calling is kinda lame... please go get your self a hug, it's just a discussion.

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+16 # Guest 2011-08-04 19:13

Do any of you realize that it's possible that Coenen was paid this way once and then Golden Glory tried to switch up the payments and play hardball with the UFC?

I really don't see how that's a difficult scenario to imagine.

Don't get me wrong. It could be Zuffa just going apeshit on Golden Glory for an entirely separate reason, but until we know the whole story (which I'm assuming will be out in the open in the next few weeks), perhaps you silly people should calm down on the "Fuck Dana" talk. None of us knows the whole story yet.

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+2 # powers 2011-08-04 20:59

I can see them doing it once, GG complaining , and then dana saying "nope". I want to see checks Pre-merger.

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+3 # DockEllis 2011-08-04 21:00

Exactly.

Dana admits that they forced Golden Glory to have their fighters paid directly instead of through GG. According to him, GG raised shit so they were cut in order to avoid that drama and unpleasantness.

That may all be bullshit but this check proves nothing.

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+24 # Lefthea D. Kick 2011-08-04 19:15

Folks, it's not Dana's fault. He's simply confused, he must have a concussion from that brutal pit he was in at the Rage Against the Machine concert.

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-11 # Guest 2011-08-04 19:16

GG=saints, dana white=satan ? what else is new ? i like how MMA media gets their panties in a bunch everytime white lies knowing well he IS a liar.

move along people, bitching about it isn't gonna undo whats already been done.

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+5 # Guest 2011-08-04 19:35

The Golden Glory fighters are people who are now out of jobs because of Dana White.

If you were fired for a reason that turned out to be a half truth, wouldn't you be mad?

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-2 # chiggs 2011-08-04 21:45

Quoting Smashida1:

The Golden Glory fighters are people who are now out of jobs because of Dana White.

If you were fired for a reason that turned out to be a half truth, wouldn't you be mad?

Being 12 in all, he's probably never had a job, thus doesnt understand all the big people talk and implications to things like this.

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+1 # jawesome 2011-08-04 21:59

Quoting Smashida1:

The Golden Glory fighters are people who are now out of jobs because of Golden Glory.

Fixed.

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:32

Yeah, GG = Saints? That's why the head of the organization is in prison for murder...

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:35

Quoting Ha:

Yeah, GG = Saints? That's why the head of the organization is in prison for murder...

And here's the pudding: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/real-owner-golden-glory-prison-double-murder-1219054/index3.html

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+1 # chiggs 2011-08-05 11:01

Quoting Ha:

Yeah, GG = Saints? That's why the head of the organization is in prison for murder...

Ferititas may not be in jail(at the moment) but their family is anything but Saints as well. Any idea how they/their grandfather got all the money, or what goes on behind the scenes in Vegas or Atlantic City(were he(Grampa) was allegedly tied to Mob/mafia
Shit Dana even admits to being run out of Boston by the mob...if he wasnt tied to them, why the fuck would they care about him/run him off. Really though, you'd be surprised just how close the Combat sports world really is tied to Crime an the like..
Offtopic abit here, but any word Zeus & Co. on whats going on with Station's 5 Billion $ bankruptcy plan? Thought that was supposed to be coming up for review soon?

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0 # Guest 2011-08-06 03:32

the only job ropes has ever had was a blowjob.

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+7 # Twinny 2011-08-04 19:24

should be an interesting rumor mill this sunday.

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+22 # Guest 2011-08-04 19:34

In the interview, Dana specifically said that he paid her directly. If he already admitted it, why do you need photographic evidence to prove it?

The point is, she didn't WANT to be paid directly and he forced her to get paid directly. If it was made out to her management, then he would be a liar.

You guys should watch the full interview instead of just reading this excerpt.

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+10 # Guest 2011-08-04 19:46

Quoting bvrasp:

In the interview, Dana specifically said that he paid her directly. If he already admitted it, why do you need photographic evidence to prove it?

The point is, she didn't WANT to be paid directly and he forced her to get paid directly. If it was made out to her management, then he would be a liar.

You guys should watch the full interview instead of just reading this excerpt.

Exactly!! even when you read the above exert it states that zuffa pays the fighters so what this does is backs Dana. He said THEY WOULDN"T PAY GOLEN GLORY THEY ONLY PAY THE FIGHTERS... my god some people are just dumb or easily misled..

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+7 # Guest 2011-08-04 19:53

Thanks for that, I thought I was in the bizarro world or I lost my mind or something.

WATCH THE INTERVIEW PEOPLE!

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-4 # Guest 2011-08-04 21:17

he said it therefore it's true!

(that's sarcasm by the way)

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+1 # 23Xtreme 2011-08-04 19:43

got word last fighter from Golden Glory was not Schilt, it was Denis Stojnic

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+5 # FreeLeeMurray 2011-08-04 19:50

Dana White isn't honest, he's a very confident liar.

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+4 # Guest 2011-08-04 20:07

LOL who needs proof to know DW is full of shit?

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-5 # Sambro 2011-08-04 20:45

DW is fuckfag liar. None of his spin makes sense. Karatonoff and Overeem were going to fight in the grandprix, even though they have the same management as VOvereem, Marloes, Einemo.

Coker says they were cut because of losses and there's a limited number of TV spots.

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-3 # ruhowned 2011-08-05 01:20

What? Dana White and the mafi...I mean Zuffa are full of shit and lying through their teeth? I for one, am completely mother fucking shocked.

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+4 # Guest 2011-08-05 02:11

Look, no one knows how the conversation between Zuffa and GG has been. GG wants their fighters checks to be paid to the organisation rather than the fighters and Zuffa are saying that they won't do that. Isn't it possible that Zuffa just said "We only pay directly to the fighters, if you don't like it you can go" and here we are?

The scan of the check proves nothing except that Zuffa won't pay Golden Glory but Marloes Coenen herself. Why is this such an huge issue and why does this make Dana White a liar? Did he ever say he was going to pay GG not Marloes? Not that I'm especially fond of Dana White but I don't see where he lied in this matter.

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+4 # Sidecheckkick 2011-08-05 02:52

I know im late with this but i listen to Wu since 1995.
Dana is a fat bald old white c
Marlos has sexy eyes
im high from afghan strain imported from holland, my hand is probably broken, even though hayabusa makes really good gloves but who cares...
thats all i wanted to say

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-1 # Guest 2011-08-05 06:36

This was awesome. Marloes just came out and put it out there. Champion or not, I'm a fan.

Her new nickname has to be "Ms. Bigg Nuttz".

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+1 # Guest 2011-08-05 07:14

I don't especially like Dana White, but I really wouldn't want anyone else running the UFC, so if this whole thing is some idle way of calling for his resignation, GG can eat it.

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+2 # Master E 2011-08-05 07:19

Ya know... DW is being smart.... corruption is much easier if the fighters are getting paid by their managers... nothing wrong with consistency, but I would've expected a little more negotiations and not such an abrupt decision.

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0 # gardeninja 2011-08-05 07:37

It's funny how it went from the validity of the check and what it might mean given what each party said during a timeline. Then you attack people because according to you (we) don't believe Dana White can be a liar or that it's ok the way he treated/treats some members of GG. I think we can all agree that Mr White has lied on many occasions and the it unfair how he treats a lot of people (especially women's MMA)but for the love of God/Allah/Vishn u when you argue a point stick to it and don't start throwing other non/barely related topics at a person. Of course White lies all the time and is a megalomaniac but the story is about the Check and who said what at what time.

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+2 # Guest 2011-08-05 09:12

It is simple and it is business
MMA and the UFC are not some muscle-soap opera like pro-wrestling
The UFC will not be dictated to by Golden Glory, M-1 or any other minor leaguers.
They had forced golden Glory to allow the fighters to be paid directly recently
but with Overeem's childish stunt
apparently decided the Big Fish needed to show the little fish
who was the boss in the UFC, in America and really in MMA
for it is small potatoes
for all those released from here on

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+1 # Guest 2011-08-05 09:49

All you guys bitch about dana white but if it wasnt for him and the way he does business the ufc wouldnt be were it is today. you guys complain about it and your still going to pay to watch the event.

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+2 # Guest 2011-08-05 09:53

Wow most posters really don't get it. 1: This check provides abaolutly no information that we didn't already know. 2: what we do know is that the Athletic commissions, a government entity, dictates who gets paid and how they get paid. 3: Zuffa could do whatever in other countries but has stated over and over again that they choose to operate as if they are being policed by a commission. Whether that's the truth or not is unknown but to my knowledge no one has refuted that. 4: Dana white is the most public of any CEO of his calibre and with that much face time people are going to make judgments about you. I personally like Dana and what ge does for the UFC. Would you rather have Coker or that weird guy from M-1? People need to realize he is running a billion dollar business and promoting fights sometimes misdirecting or causing media controversy is good for business. 5: If the GG fighters want to get back in to Zuffa they can get new management. I would say shame on them if they don't get new management afterall thier management company just botched up all thier deals with the biggest game in town. They are all tainted goods who now have to get a second rate deal from another promotion and without any leverage.

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-1 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:00

Dana White is a lying piece a shit!
End of discussion.

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+2 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:09

It's really hard to argue against such rock solid and damning evidence. Thanks for finally putting an end to the debate with these facts.

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+2 # Guest 2011-08-05 10:05

DANA whit himself said that he paid fighters directly and continue to pay fighters directly. including sergei's next tourny match. thats not to be disputed. that doesnt change the fact that this was and still is against the wishes of GG management. i really dont know what coenen was trying to prove.

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+1 # chiggs 2011-08-05 11:28

Quoting P.TheBeast:

DANA whit himself said that he paid fighters directly and continue to pay fighters directly. including sergei's next tourny match. thats not to be disputed. that doesnt change the fact that this was and still is against the wishes of GG management. i really dont know what coenen was trying to prove.

No he didnt, well, he kinda did, but he also said/lied about how the AC's are the ones that pay the Fighters Directly, not him or Zuffa, he stated that the money goes into an escrow account, which it doesnt always, think only one or two states even do it that way.
SOOOO what Marloes is proving/trying to show, is that A) The check was infact made out to Her from Forza, NOT the Commish. and B)She's also stated that she's always recieved her pay that way since being with SF/Zuffa Also, Ubereem just stated that he too was always paid directly and not his management. You really think that Dana goes up to each and every fighter paying them himself?? Bonuses MAYBE, checks/pay, highly doubtful. And one last thing, Shemmy wasnt the last GG fighter they had, it was Dennis Stojnic, so Dana couldnt even get that particular right.

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0 # chiggs 2011-08-05 11:30

Quoting P.TheBeast:

DANA whit himself said that he paid fighters directly and continue to pay fighters directly. including sergei's next tourny match. thats not to be disputed. that doesnt change the fact that this was and still is against the wishes of GG management. i really dont know what coenen was trying to prove.

No he said that the Commission's pay the Fighters Directly, thats the way they HAD to do business, shit, some people are so fucking Blinded by Dana's shiny bald head...Marloes just showed/Proved that was NOT The case, that the check came from Forza(Parent company of ZUFFA)

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 13:50

they hand the athletic commissions the checks and they distribute them to the fighters. the commissions get 2 checks for each fighter. 1 if they lose and 1 if they win. sherdog acutally have a good article on how this works. the athletic commissions don't actually pay them money from their own account they just hold the checks and distribute them. that way the promotions don't try to stiff the fighters their pay. it doesn't prove dana a liar it actually just shows she got paid according to the regulations that are setup with the commissions. read the article it explains it all and will shut up a lot of ignorant people. http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/Fight-Supervision-An-Inside-Look-at-Event-Regulation-31501

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 12:45

Ever thought of the possibility that they do pay Marloes directly but that her management started demanding direct payments to their selves? Which resulted in Zuffa getting rid of all the GG fighters?

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 12:52

Um....Dana said ZUFFA only pays the fighters, so it is not surprising that they wrote the check out to Marloes. It is the fact that GG made a big deal about two things, one: they tried to hold ZUFFA hostage and get Overeem more money even though he had an existing contract, and two, wanting the checks made out to them. This was the same thing with Einemo, whom had the check made out to him, much to the shagrim of GG. This picture doesn't prove anything. GG was trying to put pressure and make a power move on ZUFFA, with certain demands, and ZUFFA has shown them who truly runs things.

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 13:41

I think Zuffa was tired of playing hardball with the Reem over this issue. If what I've heard is true, them having GG threaten Zuffa that Reem vacates the title unless their demands are met, made them #2 on Zuffa's shitlist next to M-1. I think from then on they fired everyone in GG, with Coenen being a casualty of war.

Zuffa collectively has a huge ego. If a small org like GG doesn't abide by Zuffa's rules, then it's no dice and GG fades into obscurity. The ball is ALWAYS in Zuffa's court, people. Just like with Fedor, his prime passes, he loses a few fights, and then Zuffa's propaganda reverberates "see we told you so." Same thing will happen to the Reem. The sad, but revisionist reality of MMA which will quickly become...UFC.

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 15:49

This paycheck does proof that DW&co are full of shit. He claims GG won't let them pay the fighters and are standing their grounds on this issue, yet MC releases a copy of her paycheck which clearly shows that it's made out too her. Now how is that not budging? Seems to me GG are doing exactly what Zuffa wants, not the otherway around. Also AO confirmed he got payed directly for his last fight, not his management. Once again how is that not complying to the Zuffa rules which according to DW they absolutly won't do. In the interview with Ariel Helwani he also confirms he made a deal with John Olav Einamo paying him directly. Once again the only thing I hear from DW is, GG won't do it? They are frikin' doing it their way! That and al the bullshit excuses from Scott Coker who imo looks like a complete tool now (DW saying the exact opposite of SC), make them very unbelievable. Now compare that to the fighters reactions who apparantly feel the need to put out proof of their injuries and paychecks, because they have no clue what's going on. So back to where it al started, people here discussing what this "proof" should mean. It means DW is full of shit.

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0 # Guest 2011-08-05 18:23

not a big deal, ya dana is a dick, I watched the interview a few blunts ago, but as I recall, its the athletic commision's rule to pay fighters direct,but eh, I could be wrong. the real issue is the frate trane list, how is Tito not on it? :)

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+1 # Guest 2011-08-05 23:17

Holy fucking Zombies on this site geeeeeez this place reaks of Sherdog baby dana dick suckers.

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0 # Guest 2011-08-06 01:07

dana white should marry don king.

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+1 # Guest 2011-08-06 06:58

I think he was saying the problem was they wanted the managers to be paid instead of the fighters. I don't think that was what the managers got though. I think Zuffa still did it their way. In the video Dana says they checks are always written out to the fighters which this is. I think he just got fed up of them demanding to pay the managers instead. It was probably an ongoing thing and they just got tired of dealing with it.

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